Are gambling debts a problem in bankruptcy?

gambling 3The short answer is that they can be.  In general the bankruptcy trustees who oversee your case seem have the opinion that gambling 4gambling debts are somehow frivolous, shady, or just not respectable and thus possibly not eligible for a bankruptcy discharge.  The same trustees don’t blink an eye at credit card debts as long as they are aged (more than one year old) but they do seem to have something against gambling debts.

I believe that it is a belief that somehow gambling is not the type of debt that the bankruptcy system was designed to discharge.  You are somehow acting irresponsibly in the eyes of a bankruptcy trustee if you engage in gambling and you borrow money to do so.

But wait a minute that is not the end of the story!  The judges don’t always agree with them.  Bankruptcy was designed to give debtors a fresh start and a relief from debts the cannot pay.  Those debts come in many types and gambling is just another type of debt.  They too should be dischargeable in bankruptcy.

I had a case years ago where a client had gambling debts and the trustees raised an objection to their discharge so I looked up what the judges at that time had ruled.  To my surprise they seemed far more understanding than the trustees.  The judges pointed out in a series of cases that gambling is a legal activity.  Not just in Las Vegas but in casinos around the country.  Here in San Diego we have many Native American casinos that are fully legal.  Millions go each year to these casinos and legally gamble.  There simply is no illegality about it.

If a debtor engages in an entirely legal undertaking then we can’t deny a debtor’s right to engage in it as well as borrow money to finance it like he would a car or clothes that he was buying.  So if the debtor accumulates debt related to the gambling then that really is no different from him running up his credit cards for some other item.  This is what I understood from reading a number of cases on gambling a few years ago.

There were a few caveats though.  The debtor with gambling debts could not have run up his credit cards in anticipation of filing bankruptcy.  One judge referred to this as a credit card “bust out” scheme.  If this was the case then that could be seen as credit card fraud.

Credit card fraud occurs when a person borrows (charges) on a credit card with no intention to repay.  That is why if you run up credit cards and then immediately file bankruptcy you probably will have a credit card fraud problem.

When you sign your card you signed that you will borrow money on the card but you have an intention to pay it back.  That intention can change later though and you can find yourself in a position where you cannot pay.  At that point you stop paying and possibly file bankruptcy.

The gambler then is just like the guy who charges consumer goods on his card except he gambles.  As long as he believes he will eventually win and then pay the car back then there is no fraud because fraud is subjective.  We may look form the outside and say that he will never win at gambling.  His chances are great that he will lose.  But if the gambler believes honestly (but unreasonably) that he will win then there is no subjective fraud.

So it is best to wait for some time after a debtor borrows money on a credit card to gamble.  It will then look less like the debtor had any fraudulent intent.  Any questions about gambling debts and bankruptcy should be directed to a knowledgable attorney.

Don’t forget that there is the gambling addiction problem too.  It is possible that a debtor has an addiction to gambling.  If the debtor is in treatment for this addiction and has ceased all gambling there is a possible argument there to counter any fraud charges.  A good bankruptcy attorney can help you with these arguments.

I am a San Diego bankruptcy attorney.  For further questions please visit my websites at www.farquharlaw.com or www.freshstartsandiego.com.  Or call my office for a free consultation or for any other advice about bankruptcy or debt at (619) 702-5015.  Call now for free credit report and analysis!

For a free e-book on “13 things to do to prepare for your bankruptcy filing” please e-mail me at farquharesq@yahoo.com.

 

Risk Free photo courtesy of Sean MacEntee.  Roulette wheel photo courtesy of Zdenko Zivkovic.

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Can I get rid of my tax debt in bankruptcy?

The answer is, it depends.  It depends upon what kind of taxes you are attempting to discharge in bankruptcy but if you mean income taxes then yes you can discharge them in bankruptcy.  Income tax dischargeability in bankruptcy is determined to just a few rules.

3 year rule

Taxes are dichargeable 3 years after they were due if there were no extensions..  If the taxes were due for the 2008 tax year in April of 2009 they would be dischargeable 3 years later after April 15th of 2012.  If you received an extension until October 2008 then they would be dischargeable in October 2012.

2 year rule

Taxes are dischargeable two years after the return was actually filed.  So 2008 taxes filed in April of 2009 would be dischargeable in April of 2011.

240 day rule

If you had income taxes assessed by the IRS the 240 day rule applies.  These taxes are dischargeable 240 days or 8 months after they were first assessed by the IRS.  Assessments often come after an audit of your taxes or if the IRS denies one of your deductions and then assesses you a greater tax.  If you wait until 8 months after these taxes are first assessed then they are also dischargeable in bankruptcy.

Other taxes

Most people have state or federal types of taxe issues but there are other cases.  If you owe sales taxes,  payroll taxes or withholding tax for employees for instance then those taxes are not dischargeable.  The IRS (or California State Franchise Board in California) consider these non-dischargeable because they were supposed to be withheld by the employer.  Many businesses rn into this kind of tax and it cannot be discharged in bankruptcy unfortunately.

Tax Fraud

If your tax return was made fraudulently or made to willfully evade taxes then those taxes would be deemed non-dischargeable in bankruptcy according to section 523 of the bankruptcy code.  This code section covers all of the exceptions to discharge.

Tax liens

If a tax lien was filed against you for failure to pay the tax then that lien does not get wiped out in the bankruptcy.  It remains after the bankruptcy.  So for example if the IRS put a tax lien on your house then it would not be extinguished by your chapter 7 bankruptcy.

You also need to be sure also that what you owe to the government is a tax.  If it is considered a “fine, fee, or penalty or forfeiture payable to and for the benefit of a governmental unit” then it is not dischargeable.  This is from section 523(a)(6) and this section is referring to things  like traffic tickets, parking tickets, court imposed penalties and fees.  Just make sure your tax is a tax and not one of these fines or penalties.

So most of your income taxes are dischargeable if they are old enough.  Have your attorney look at them careful to make sure they are.  You can always wait to file until they age if need be.

I am a San Diego bankruptcy attorney.  For further questions please visit my websites at www.farquharlaw.com or www.freshstartsandiego.com.  Or call my office for a free consultation or for any other advice about bankruptcy or debt at (619) 702-5015.  Call now for free credit report and analysis!  For a free e-book on “13 things to do to prepare for your bankruptcy filing” please e-mail me at farquharesq@yahoo.com.

1 Trillion dollar problem. Student loan debt increases 275% over the last decade! When will they be bankruptable?

It’s true!  According to an article posted online by CNN Money student loan debt has tripled in the last 10 years.  The total amount of student loan debt in the U.S. is $904 billion in the first quarter of 2012 and that is up from $241 billion in 2003.  It is now the second highest form of debt behind mortgages which means that credit cards have less charged on them than these student loans.

As if this is not bad enough the debt keeps growing.  In fact it is the only type of debt that has substantially increased since 2008 according to a senior economist at the NY Fed.

And the delinquency rates on these student loans are also rising.  They are up to 8.69% from just 6.13% a decade ago.  Does this mean that over 90% of people are not delinquent?  No!   Almost 50% of these loans are currently in deferment or grace periods according to another Fed. economist.  That means that 60% of these loans are basically not being paid because the borrowers who are still in school or unemployed don’t have to pay anything yet.

So you have a whole class of debts that has reached astronomical heights and almost two-thirds of that debt is not being serviced.  It sounds like a potential disaster to me.  The median amount borrowed is $12,800 but 25% of borrowers owe more than $28,000, and 10% owe more than $54,000, and 3% owe over $100,000.  90% of the lending comes from the federal government and borrowing is way up apparently because of the economic downturn.  Students are apparently rushing to take out new debt for this coming year.  Most likely debt which they cannot pay.

My experience with these student loans is that they don’t care if you get a job in your field or if you cannot pay your rent.  They want their money when you get out and get a job and they will wait forever to get you to pay.  They tacked on over $7000 to a student loan which a client of mine took out years ago after he did not make payments on the loan.  We attempted to settle with borrowed money but they would have none of it.

They wanted their whole amount plus their interest and fees and they were not interested in any settlement.  My client made $10,000 a year on menial labor with a pregnant wife and two children and the student loan collectors did not care even that he would probably never be able to pay the debts.  Nor did they care that he never got a job in the field which he studied for.  The lady on the phone told me that “lots of people are having hard times”.

Yes, and let them eat cake!  How long can this country tolerate this intolerable student loan problem?  It’s over A trillion dollars and growing and 60% of these loans are not being paid on.  Collectors don’t care whether you can pay or not and just want the money and the economy is down so people are lining up to get more loans which they will never be able to pay.

The whole problem could be solved by making these debts dischargeable in a bankruptcy.  It is ridiculous that these loans cannot be included in bankruptcy when car loans, credit card loans, personal loans and mortgage loans can all be taken care of through a bankruptcy.  How can it be that someone who tries to improve themself by getting an education must be stuck with that debt for life when others can get rid of their debts in bankruptcy when they reach the level which they cannot pay for them?

And it is not just a problem for government backed loans.  Private student loans are also not dischargeable in bankruptcy since 2005.  This has led to an explosion in private student loan debt too that leaves many with worthless degrees and debts they cannot pay for.  I also wrote a blog about private student loan debt.

I also argued in another blog that student loans should be dischargeable in bankruptcy.   If they made all student loans dischargeable in bankruptcy then the problem would go away for these students.  That is what bankruptcy is for.   It serves to help people get rid of debts which they have no hope of paying and then move on in life with a fresh start.  The whole bankruptcy process is looked over by a series of trustees and a bankruptcy judge.  They make sure that income and assets are insufficient to pay the debts and to make sure there is no fraud.  It is the perfect system to handle these debts.

How long can we kick the can down the road?  These students cannot pay these debts.  Like many of my clients they are barely surviving and they can only pay rent and food if they are lucky enough to get a job.  How can we pretend that they can pay 10s of thousands of dollars in student loan debt?  Are we to hound them to the grave?  The only solution that makes sense is to make these dischargeable in bankruptcy.  Take it from one who sees this situation every single day.

I am a San Diego bankruptcy attorney.  For further questions please visit my websites at www.farquharlaw.com or www.freshstartsandiego.com.  Or call my office for a free consultation or for any advice about bankruptcy or debt at (619) 702-5015.  Call now for free credit report and analysis! 

For a free e-book on “13 things to do to prepare for your bankruptcy filing” please e-mail me at farquharesq@yahoo.com.

Good news for tenants! You can wipe out most debt related to your tenancy in bankruptcy!

Tenants often get saddled with debts they cannot pay after renting a house, condo, or apartment.  There are debts for back rent, unpaid utilities, damages to the premises, or unpaid security deposits.  All of these types of debts are dischargeable in a bankruptcy usually with no problem.  A landlord would have to prove fraud or willful and malicious damage to his premises to get these debts to be not dischargeable in bankruptcy.

In some cases there can even be a huge debt left over if you vacate the premises early in a lease.  If you sign a lease for a year and vacate after six months the landlord can sue you for the other six months of the lease.  This can be substantial.  Many of my clients have signed a 10 year lease for a commercial space and then quickly vacated when their businesses failed.  The  landlords then sued and got judgements in excess of $300,000.  These clients quickly filed for bankruptcy and discharged this debt without any trouble and we didn’t ever see the landlords show up at the 341 hearing.

Landlords often threaten you with paying for these debts but just mention the word bankruptcy.  There is nothing they can do once you file bankruptcy if there is no fraud or willful and malicious damage.  So don’t worry when they threaten you with lawsuits.  One of my commercial clients was called to a debtor’s exam about his huge debt for his broken lease.  He showed up with his bankruptcy papers in hand.  The lawyer stuttered and stammered and when she went to the judge he laughed and said she would have to seek redress in bankruptcy court.  We got his discharge and never heard from them again.

Landlords are supposed to make every attempt to re-rent the premises you vacate when you break your lease.  We usually don’t know if they even bother to do this though.  It’s called mitigation of damages.  If the landlord tries but can’t re-rent your vacated premises then you are still liable for the unpaid rent if you don’t file bankruptcy.

Even a debt of $300,000 goes away easily in bankruptcy so don’t worry.  If you are a residential tenant who has a much smaller debt from a few months of back rent then that can be put in the bankruptcy too along with your credit card debts, medical debts, and any other dischargeable debts you may have.

Don’t let a landlord bully of threaten you with a big bill because bankruptcy will wipe it out.  Don’t let them threaten you with a lawsuit either.  A bankruptcy will also stop an eviction and force the landlord to seek a motion for relief from stay before he can remove you from the premises.  If you need more time to vacate the premises then bankruptcy give you extra time to move.

I believe that bankruptcy’s main value is in wiping out those old debts so call a bankruptcy attorney today if you have debts related to a tenancy.

I am a San Diego bankruptcy attorney.  For further information please visit my websites at www.farquharlaw.com or www.freshstartsandiego.com.  Or call my office for a free consultation at (619) 702-5015.  Call now for free credit report and analysis!

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Private student loan debt is unfortunately not dischargeable in bankruptcy, but it should be!

There is a problem in this country with student loan debt.  I have blogged about student loans here and here and how student loan debt is increasing every year.  Many believe that it is going to be the origin of the next financial crisis or at least the factor that prevents any economic recovery to occur.  Outstanding student loan debt has topped $1 trillion and is still rising every year.  It is clear that this debt will have profound effects on the economy if it is not dealt with.

But student loan debts comes in two types.  The “old” type of student loan debt is government backed student loans.  These are loans backed by the U.S. government (ie taxpayer).  These are loans that government agencies back or give out and these loans have been historically non-dischargeable in bankruptcy as is the case with most debts owed to the government.

But along came BACPA in the year 2005 which created a sweeping reform of the bankruptcy laws and gave us things like the “means test”.  In that 2005 law private student loans were added to the list on non-dischargeable debts.

Years ago, before 2005, I  remember advising people that we could discharge their debts for truck driving schools, hair and nail academies, and other school debts if the the money lent came from a strictly private institution with no government backing or funding.  These loans were far fewer then but could be discharged in bankruptcy.  The lenders of these loans knew of their non-dischargeability and the lenders were therefore careful to whom they lent the money.

Section 523(a)(8)(B) of the new bankruptcy law changed things. Private loans now fell into the category of “any other educational loan that is a qualified education loan” and they were rendered non-dischargeable. Many of us believe that this in turn led to an explosion of these student loans.

With these loans being safe from dischargeability in bankruptcy the lenders went out to push these loans.  They were now after all a good risk.  Debtors would be stuck with them for life and the creditors would get paid back.  According to the PBS special “College Inc.” the schools now got into the act.  They hired recruiters to find masses of students who would sign up for these private degrees.  These masses of students would then attend these private colleges funded by these private loans that were now freely available.

The biggest of these was the University of Phoenix.  I was talked to by a recruiter way back in the 1980s from that “University” so they have been active for some time.  They seemed to have grown substantially more recently though probably due to the availability of this private money.  They and the others then pumped out these degrees to students by the thousands.  Each student then was shackled with a large (non-dischargeable) student loan debt when he or she gets the degree.  This would seem to be such a problem if these students could get a job.

In fact though many of these degrees are worthless.  PBS talks about a nursing school that gave degrees to people who never stepped foot inside a hospital.  Another student took on $200,000 in student loan debt for a doctoral degree from a school without the proper accreditation.  Many of these students never get a job from these degrees that they borrowed massive amounts to fund and many never will because the degrees are worthless and employers know it and don’t hire graduates from these “Universities”.

This new for-profit system of education is a big change in the way have historically educate.  Colleges were in the past non-profit private schools or government schools which were of course non-profit.  These new schools claim they want to change all of that and provide an alternative way of providing education.  But that education or those degrees provided by these institutions must be worth something in that they put heir graduates in line for some occupation.

n the past those for profit schools were smaller and had less students.  I believe it was the 2005 bankruptcy law that in part led to an explosion of these school as it led to an explosion in the money available to finance these schools.  In the 1980s you probably could not get a loan to go to the University of Phoenix.  No private lenders would lend for this as they knew you would bankrupt it away when you got out and could not get a job.

Burt when the law changed and the debts would last forever the became a good risk for lenders and they pushed the money out.  The schools picked up on this and they advertised this money availability and probably stretched the truth a lot about the employment rates of their graduates.  This has led to the $1 trillion student loan debt situation we have today.

There is a law that is attempting to address this but I will save you the trouble of looking it up or hoping it will pass.  I believe if we just go back to making these private debts dischargeable in bankruptcy the money available to fund these schools would tighten up considerably.  The numbers of students would then shrink drastically and so would the graduates. This would certainly help their employ-ability as their would be less of them and if students couldn’t get a job from one of these degrees then bankruptcy would remain an option.  Bankruptcy is usually better than paying for student loans forever when you can’t get a job.

I am a bankruptcy attorney practicing bankruptcy law in San Diego.  Please visit my websites at www.farquharlaw.com or www.freshstartsandiego.com.  Or call my office for a free consultation at (619) 702-5015.  Call now for free credit report and analysis! 

For a free e-book: “13 THINGS YOU SHOULD DO TO PREPARE FOR YOUR BANKRUPTCY FILING” please send a request by e-mail to: farquharesq@yahoo.com.

“Occupy Chicago” wants to forgive student loans. Your student loan bailout should be through bankruptcy!

The “Occupy Wall Street” movement has created many spinoff movements all over the country like the one here in San Diego.  After hearing criticism for their lack of coherent demands, the “Occupy Chicago” chapter came out with a list of demands on Monday.  Among other things, like taxing the wealthy and attacking Wall Street, they want student loans forgiven.  I argued in a blog that I posted Sunday on the Occupy San Diego movement that student loans should be dischargeable in bankruptcy.

In the face of the bailouts that Wall Street firms and banks received more and more people are asking “where is our bailout”?  Regular people have a tremendous amount of debt which they cannot afford and they believe that justice demands that they need some consideration from government.  It is true that almost 50% of people pay no income taxes but should we bailout the 99% with massive wealth transfers?

I say no.   Most people in this country will not go for that.  I have argued for years on my blog that a bailout plan already exists for the 99% of us that are neither rich nor giant corporations.  It’s called bankruptcy and bankruptcy allows you to legally walk away from your debts and have them discharged so you no longer owe them.  You can then get a fresh start debt free and keep what money you earn from employment.  Everyone can avail themselves of bankruptcy.  You don’t have to be a privileged person or corporation to get it.  In fact if you make too much money you will be means tested out of a chapter 7.

So bankruptcy is available for regular people but there is a problem.  Student loans cannot be included in bankruptcy.  Student loans currently are not dischargeable in bankruptcy.   They do therefore indeed last forever or until you allege “undue hardship” which is very hard to prove.  If these student loans were to be included in the lists of debts that people could discharge in bankruptcy then regular people would not be saddled with them forever.  They could escape them and move on in life with their student loans forgiven.

This could be done so much more easily and fairly in the context of bankruptcy than through some government blanket forgiveness.  Bankruptcy has been around for hundreds of years and the systems are in place to handle forgiveness of debt through the filing of bankruptcy.  There are trustees and judges to oversee each individual to make sure that the people asking for forgiveness really can’t afford to pay these debts back because the have neither the income or assets to do so.

In bankruptcy there are even proscribed exemptions that allow each person to keep a certain amount of property.  For most of the 99% this would amount to people keeping all of their property because most people don’t have more than these allowed exemption amounts.

This solution will also be so much more palatable to the American public.  It allows the forgiveness of the student loan debt but within the confines of the bankruptcy system.  Each individual would have to file for bankruptcy to get his student loan debt forgiveness.  He would then be examined by a Trustee and he would face a judge if fraud or other problems came up.   His income and expenses would be looked at to determine that he could not pay his debts with his current income and thus he is formally bankrupt. Those who could afford to pay the loans would then have to do so in some form but many many student loan debtors would be able to escape these loans if they were dischargeable in bankruptcy.  Bankruptcy is no blanket gift.

And it would be fair.  Many people with student loans cannot afford to pay these loans and they have very little hope of paying them back.  They are under employed or more likely unemployed and they cannot afford their living expenses let alone these student loans that have not even landed them a job.  It is simply not fair that a person who used their credit cards to excess can discharge those debts but the person trying to get an education and a job can never escape them even if they have no money and no job.

But many people will say that if we make student loans dischargeable in bankruptcy then student loans will be harder to get.   Maybe that is a good thing and people won’t borrow money for degrees that won’t lead to a job.  But I also believe that as credit cards are still obtainable by most people today and they are dischargeable in bankruptcy.  Bankruptcy has not stopped that industry and dischargeable student loans will not stop lenders from lending money for these loans either.

It also should not matter whether the loans are government or private.  If  they are private then the loans should be treated like credit cards and if government loans are owed then forgiveness of these loans is only fair in light of the bailouts given by the government to the financial industry.  Whether government or private though the effect is the same on people.  They can’t afford to pay them back in many cases.  (Remember also that IRS tax debt is dischargeable after only 3 years and the IRS still continues to operate).

And for further fairness you could make student loans dischargeable after a period of time say 10 or even 20 years.  If the student has not paid them back by that time then they are certainly having a problem and they probably can’t pay them back.  It is only fair to allow people to escape them in time.

I am a bankruptcy attorney practicing bankruptcy law in San Diego, CA.   For further information please visit my website at www.farquharlaw.com or www.freshsatartsandiego.com.   Or call my office for a free consultation at (619) 702-5015.  If you or someone you know are considering bankruptcy then get my Free e-book “13 THINGS YOU SHOULD DO TO PREPARE FOR YOUR BANKRUPCTY FILING” by e-mailing me at farquharesq@yahoo.com.

“Occupy San Diego” has begun! But if you want a bailout like the banks then try bankruptcy. (But let’s add student loans to the list of dischargeable debts)

The “Occupy San Diego” movement is currently in full swing in our city.  Protestors have marched through San Diego and occupied a park in downtown.  It remains unclear just what they are protesting though.  Some in the movement say it’s “corporate greed”.  According to an article in Sign on San Diego the protestors are not just angry about corporate greed but they also object to the money flowing into the political system from the financial industry and the banks.  According to the “Occupy San Diego” website those in the movement say they are for “social and economic justice” and they are protesting “global financial corruption” and the financial influence that has infiltrated everything and led to the current economic crisis.

On the “Occupy San Diego” website they also have a list of items they recommend people bring to the protest, along with their tents, much like the lists for camping trips.  They tell you where the bathrooms are and whether the are 24 hour or not.  They talk about first aid, entertainment, as well as security.  Mostly they seem to be ready to stay and occupy these parks in San Diego for a long time as they prepare their list of demands.

Apparently the movement is being advertised and spread rapidly by social media and it is gaining steam.  Where it goes and when it ends is anyone’s guess.  I must admit that this thing is somewhat fascinating as I can’t remember another movement like this even though I don’t necessarily agree with some of the premises like the anti-capitalist, pro-government emphasis.  I personally prefer small government libertarian ideas that emphasize personal freedom.  But the movement is certainly interesting and I intend to drive by and maybe mingle as I work downtown.

We who practice bankruptcy law though do believe in our cause too.  We believe that we bring freedom from the terrible burdens of debt to average people who are 99%ers.  We regulary help free people from this debt but we also bring equality too.  We bankruptcy attorneys can take you down the same road as one of these corporations that regularly file for bankruptcy and shed their debt.  Any one individual person (or couple) can file and be just like a corporation.

We in bankruptcy believe he average person’s bailout is a bankruptcy.  What is a bailout after all except a forgiveness of your debt?  You don’t have to wait for the government to give you something that only big financial institutions have.  The 99% already have the power to get their debts forgiven.  You can get your debts forgiven tomorrow.  The legal framework already has been in place for hundreds of years. Average people just have to avail themselves of the bankruptcy process.

And if you are unemployed and have no income to pay those debts then bankruptcy makes even more sense.  Imagine waking up tomorrow debt free.  How would that feel?  You could get your bailout just like big financial corporations did if you file for bankruptcy.  It’s a wonderful thing for sure.

It is also true that many people around the country have massive student loans left over from their education. Many people had to borrow heavily to originally fund their education so they could get a job.  Many of those people cannot get a job now in this economy and they have no money to pay those loans back.

It is also true that these debts are not currently dischargeable in bankruptcy.  In fact Obama’s latest spending bill would allow private collectors for these loans robocall your cell phone to harass you into paying these loans.  He is making the situation therefore worse by allowing these companies to go after you for debts which you probably cannot pay.

If this movement wants to put in a demand that these debts should be dischargeable in bankruptcy then the movement would gain the support of mostly all those who work in bankruptcy because we believe that these debts should be dischargeable.  There is no reason why students should be saddled with these debts forever but someone who over-used their credit cards can get rid of those debts.

A stipulation could be put in the new law that the student loan debt would not be dischargeable until they are 10 or even 20 years old.  This would give collectors time to collect these debts and if they can’t collect in this time then they would have to forgo collection if the person filed bankruptcy.  I believe that it’s fair to say that f the collectors can’t collect within 10 or 20 years then the debtor probably will not ever be able to pay.  Those debts are probably uncollectable and debtors should be freed from having to pay them the way financial institutions have been given infusions of cash so they can continue to operate their businesses.

How about including that demand that in this protest?  If this happens then more people will obtain financial freedom and greater parity with corporations.  Student loans can be onerous for people who have no way to pay them in this economy.  How about a student loan bailout?  Make these loans dischargeable in bankruptcy and that is all you would have to do.

As for the protest I will continue to watch with great interest as I want to see where it goes and how it ends up.  Will these people ever go home?  Will hey set up tent cities?  Will violence occur or will they be peaceful?  Will police make arrests?  How many will join those already there?  Then where will they all go?  Will they shut down operations in this city?  What will happen nationwide?

I will continue to follow and blog about this movement.

I am a bankruptcy attorney practicing bankruptcy law in San Diego, CA.  For more information please visit my website at www.farquharlaw.com or www.freshstartsandiego.com.  Or call my office for a free consultation at (619) 702-5015.  Call now for free credit report and analysis! 

If you or someone you know is considering bankruptcy then get my FREE E-BOOK; “13 THINGS YOU SHOULD DO TO PREPARE FOR YOUR BANKRUPTCY FILING” by e-mailing me at farquharesq@yahoo.com.

Do you want government health care? Think again- your medical bills may become non-dischargeable in bankruptcy.

Will your bankruptcy “out” for medical debts be gone if the government takes over health care?

We know that the government generally exempts itself from bankruptcy discharges.  Debts owed to the government generally pass through a bankruptcy unaffected meaning that you still owe them after it’s all over.  It’s not fair but its the way it is.  Most taxes and government fines, fees, and penalties are all not dischargeable in a bankruptcy.

The question becomes what happens if the government takes over health care?  If you are in some government collective that provides health care and you owe them money for medical services and you cannot pay then what happens?

Currently with our private system all of those medical debts are dischargeable because they are owed to some private hospital or doctor.  If you owe the money to the government collective then I predict that these debts will not be dischargeable like all the other government debts.  You will have therefore lost the benefit of bankruptcy that you had before when health care was private.

These government collectives, pools, or exchanges will be a reality and they will be run by the government.  Since government is supposedly for the benefit of the people, the money you owe them will not be dischargeable in bankruptcy and you will be stuck owing them regardless of what you do.

If they say “it’s affordable health care” and you still can’t afford it then what will you do?  When you owe money to the IRS they can lien and take any property they want from you including your wages.

Keep this in mind with government health care.

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What debts are not dischargeable in bankruptcy?

The most common types of non-dischargeable debts are student loans, government fines and fees and some taxes, spousal and child support.  There are other categories such as debts incurred due to fraud but these are much less common.

Student loans– These debts are almost always not dischargeable.  Whether they are government backed student loans or loans from a private agency they are not dischargeable.  The 2005 BAPCA law saw to that.  Loans issued “for any educational purpose” are now all non-dischargeable in bankruptcy and student loans will pass through the bankruptcy unaffected and you will have to pay them.

There is a hardship discharge for student loans in bankruptcy but it is very hard to get.  To get a hardship discharge of student loans your attorney would have to bring an adversary proceeding in bankruptcy court.  This amounts to a mini-trial where all the facts of the hardship would have to be proven.

It is expensive and time-consuming to bring such a s case and there is no assurance that you will win.  In fact it is apparently very hard to win one of these trials at all.  There are stories of judges looking at a disabled debtor and telling them that they though they cannot work any more in their field, they could teach and earn money to pay the student loan back that way.

Government fines, fees, penalties, and some taxes– If you get a traffic fine or criminal fine levied by a court or other government agency then those fines are not dischargeable in bankruptcy.  That is easy but taxes are more difficult.  The main rule for taxes is the 3 year rule that states that 3-year-old income taxes are dischargeable in bankruptcy.

So in 2012 (after April 15th)  income taxes for 2008 would be dischargeable.  This is because these taxes were due in april of 2009.  Both state and federal  income taxes are dischargeable in bankruptcy if the meet this 3 year rule.  There are other rules too but this is the main one that applies to most people.

Other types of taxes are not dischargeable so consult with an attorney for advice on your tax situation.

Spousal and child support– Forget about discharging these.  You will have to pay your ex-spouse or your children after you get a support obligation levied against you.

Fraud– Debts where fraud is proven will not be dischargeable.  If you get sued and the plaintiff alleges fraud then you want to fight these cases because bankruptcy will not save you from having to pay.  The normal credit card suit usually will not contain a fraud allegation but credit card companies can allege fraud in a bankruptcy.  This usually occurs if you have very large recent charges on your cards for cash advances or luxury items.

If you have such charges then tell your attorney so he can wait some time to file or advise you on the possible consequences if you do file right away.

The good news is that if your debt does not fall into one of the non-dischargeable categories then it is probably dischargeable in a bankruptcy!

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